Okay, since this keeps coming up, I'll post links to my articles on the Moon Hoax conspiracy theory for everyone to read through.
Who Mourns for Apollo?
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14 comments:
Good job, Mike. Kudos to you and Steve Troy
for a job well done.
'Nuff said.
:-)
P.S.: What a rip, huh? You go post all this
stuff, and nobody shows....
Andro,
You can lead a horse to water...
I just read through an old book on the technology that had to be developed for Apollo. Not only was it more complex than this conspiracy theory fools people into believing, but it worked and works (e.g., the crawler, VAB, etc.).
Too bad we can't look at ALL the blue-prints anymore...
That's the one thing that really bugs me. There was no reason to destroy the blueprints.
Maybe what they found was so terrifying they wanted to make it impossible to go back...or at least very difficult.
Mike,
I certainly respect your position on this
stuff. That said:
I've been working on a design concept for an
"ALICE Probe," i.e., an "Automated Lunar
Investigation Craft / Electrogravitic" that
could be flown by a computer user from
here on Earth. And no rockets needed.
It's a little "garage project" for some time
in the future when I can afford it. (But not right now, unfortunately.)
Wouldn't the "Powers That Be" have some
degree of concern about efforts like mine
coming to fruition?
I might find a backer tomorrow. Who knows?
Then this thing would be flying in six months
or less.
Moreover, it isn't like this sort of thing is
unique to lil' ol' me. Ha! Hardly.
That being the case, *who cares* whether
NASA kept their antique drawings (other than
perhaps for their far more appropriate use
as a museum exhibit---investigative value aside)?
Not that I "don't care," but...
This *is* decades later...and MUCH better
technology is available, as they doubtless
MUST have known it would be, AND spreading
into the public consciousness at large, as
in fact it is.
The list of successful experimenters keeps
growing....
So...as to RETURNING to the Moon (AND
bearing in mind that you were refering to
"1970's NASA" being afraid to go back)---
So *now* they're suddenly not afraid to go
back, but---
I mean, what's with all this talk of "Apollo
on Steroids?"
I call it "Mercury on Steroids," more like.
"Well, let's see, the ol' horse an' buggy
got us there before...so, let's use a bigger
horse and a sturdier buggy!"
Huh?!?
Why not take the Lexus?!?
It's sitting right there in the driveway...!!!!
(Area 51 for those who wonder.)
All this for a basically "busted" charade?
(I admit I "presume" here....)
The tech is all over J.L. Naudin's website
and everybody knows it.
The Correas have given us the means for
on-board power with their PAGD technology...
And everybody knows THAT....
So---
What's wrong with THIS picture???
:-O
Of course, then again, *at the time*, and
from *their* point of view...maybe you're
right....
:-\
"Destroying (some?) drawings" might have
seemed like the thing to do....
:-\
So---
Is...Somebody Up There *hostile*?!
:-O
And NASA's going BACK there with LOW TECH???? (For which, presumably, they're
going to "fill in" the "missing pieces" with
"upgrades?" Like dropping a superstock
ceramic Wankel engine in a Tin Lizzie????)
:-O
Color me TOTALLY confused....
Anyway---
I vote "We really went to the Moon."
Reason: personal preference.
:-)
P.S.: There *could have been* a studio with
a duplicate Apollo setup, because, after all,
there WAS an earthbound simulation that was
publicly known---and shown on TV---for the
usual problem solving by JSC and other NASA
teams as needed.
Why? Perhaps if (a) they lost the video feed,
or (b) if something was "visible" in the live
feed that they wanted to hide from the public.
But I'm not suggesting that any of the "fake"
video feeds were ever used. It would appear
that they weren't. (Mike, I find your evidence
that the M/L Hoax is a total "crock" quite
convincing.)
Even so, possibly there WAS a studio, etc.,
as some have claimed, but just not for the
purpose of "faking the Moon landings."
Maybe someone "knew about the studio"
but didn't know its true purpose. IF it ever
existed at all, it likely would have fallen
under the purview of black ops.
Why does it have to be "one or the other?"
And then, considering the possibility that
*NASA itself* is behind the "Moon Hoax" theory....
Sheesh....
Welcome to the Blue Lodge!
:-)
The 1969 press conference was psychotic
After Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, and Buzz Aldrin returned from the moon in 1969, they held a press conference to tell the world about their incredible trip to the moon.
These three men just accomplished the most incredible feat the human race has ever achieved. If you had been in their position, wouldn't you have been excited, proud of America, and happy to describe your trip to the moon?
The facial and body expressions of the astronauts suggest that they are suffering from extreme emotional stress.
Why would they appear to be so nervous and awkward? NASA wants us to believe that all of the astronauts are extremely introverted. But watch the first few minutes of their interview, and ask yourself, are they really introverted? Or are they suffering stress because they are lying about going to the moon?
Hey Mike,
Maybe I should put a "rumble seat module"
in the ALICE probe and let Unit ride along.
Whaddaya think?
:-)
It wouldn't the first ship he's been jettisoned from. We booted him years ago...too bad he's found you all, but I guess you'll figure it out eventually.
Back to the topic at hand....
I think the relevant question is not so much "did we go to the moon?" but "how many times did we go to the moon?(that we never told anyone about)
As to the freaked out look on the faces....
well, lets see...you just came back from the bloody MOON. Uh, I'd be just a tad freaked out too regardless if I had seen dusty gray rocks or a whole flippin city.
You don't need a PhD in rocket science to figure that out...psych 101 is sufficient to figure that out.
The whole idea that we didn't go seems so quaint in light of oh, I don't know, the space shuttles,space stations, Mars orbiters/rovers, Galileo, Hubble...
Hi scarletm,
I think the relevant question is not so much
"did we go to the moon?" but "how many times
did we go to the moon? (that we never told
anyone about)
That's the $64 question, alright.
We had:
17 Apollo missions to the Moon
1 Apollo-Soyuz mission
3 Apollo standing displays
(Huntsville, Houston, and one other)
for 21 Apollo moon ships in all, which exactly
matches the original slate of Apollo Moon
missions from the outset of the program.
However, I remember late-night news stories
about "mystery" military launches during that
time that seemed to be using "Apollo class"
boosters (as some reporters observed).
Perhaps one of these "mystery" launches was
the legendary "Apollo 20" mission? That some
say is only a hoax? Even as some say that the
whole Apollo program was a hoax? Or at least
the Moon landings?
In the absence of truly hard evidence (since
video such as that of "Apollo 20" is much too
easy to fake these days), one can only wonder
how many times we really went to the Moon.
Then again, if the "Apollo 20" videos are real,
then---oh, man---we haven't seen the half of
it yet.
Moreover, even though we yet may not be
able to get our hands on such "hard evidence,"
or drawings, or films/vids/photos/whatever,
nevertheless we can follow the money.
A recent news report stated that money put
into black projects has been running in the
trillions for many years now.
These "black projects" are military projects.
The DoD (provably) runs NASA.
And NASA's budget is...what, again?
:-)
P.S.: Cute dog!
The question has been raised about Apollo photos that show shadowed sides of astronauts 'filled in' with light reflected from somewhere. I got the impression Mike argued that the reflected light was from lunar dome structure. Since the issue of the source of this illumination (and it is there) is also a main theme of the hoax-accusers, can we discuss it -- starting with Mike clarifying why he raised the question himself?
Thanks!
Well, jimo!
I see you're a Mohammed Ali fan!
But even so, I don't think "Rope A Dope" is
gonna work on Mike.
:-)
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