Sunday, November 23, 2008

My Visit to the Church of Scientology


I had the pleasure of visiting the L. Ron Hubbard Life Exhibition of the Church of Scientology this past weekend. I was invited there in April after attending the LA Book Expo by Luc Dubios, a member of the Church and one of their representatives at the Expo. He and I had a frank discussion of the role of L. Ron Hubbard during the period he was hanging out with Jack Parsons of JPL in Pasadena, California. After I suggested he read Dark Mission, Luc wrote me and told me that he felt that Dark Mission could be more accurate in its presentation of the events of the so-called Babylon Working and Hubbard’s role in it. After many months of back and forth, I was finally able to clear my schedule and find the time to drive down to the L. Ron Hubbard museum and Life Exhibition on Hollywood and Ivar in Los Angeles.

Luc was very generous and gave me and my guest a personal tour of the facility, its exhibitions and the various instruments and techniques used in the practice of their religion. I found it all quite fascinating, and frankly I learned a great many things about Mr. Hubbard that I had not previously known. No matter what your opinion of Scientology or Hubbard, there can be no doubt that he was an incredibly prolific, travelled and learned man, who dedicated his life towards many causes that still improve the lives of people today, 20 years after his death. Honestly, I think (my opinion, not the church’s) that he was probably the inspiration for the character of Indiana Jones, if not others, and I thoroughly enjoyed the tour.

After that, we retired to the offices of Lynn Farney, the Public Affairs Information Officer for the Church, and we went over the issues they had with Dark Mission in great detail. I was shown documents which changed my perspective on Hubbard and his role in the Working to a significant degree.

I’ll be talking about this in more detail in the revised Dark Mission, but suffice it to say that I am now even more intrigued about the Secret History of NASA, and Hubbard and Parson’s role in it.

10 comments:

T'Zairis said...

Mike--

Be very, very careful here. Knowing what I do about scientology, Hubbard, Jack Parsons, et al., I smell a major attempt at pwnage...

There is no faster way to wreck one's credibility than to take scientology advertising flack at face value. The upper echelons of the organization have a horrible history of forging documentation-- said history of same is extensively documented in transcripts of court cases both in the U.S. and internationally.

I would also recommend you read Paulette Cooper's book, 'The Scandal of Scientology' (available in its entirety online at the Operation Clambake website, among others) which is extensively footnoted. Chapter 20 is about Hubbard's claims regarding his own personal history, and makes for very interesting reading. Ms. Cooper's experiences with the CoS after she wrote her book are also telling.

The bottom line is that Hubbard was a full-on practitioner of Crowleyite Sex Magick, and was right in there with Jack Parsons when it came to ritual work. The CoS has tried to spin this little factoid out of existence for years, and there are a couple of good, neutral bios of Hubbard out there that document CoS attempts at 'magickal damage control'.

I have spent a couple of days thinking about whether or not to leave a comment about this particular post, but I think that the very real possibility of damage to your work via CoS 'documentation' far outweighs my own desire to stay as far away from scientology as is humanly possible.

You are doing good work with regard to all that you have uncovered/exposed in 'Dark Mission', and I really would not want to see your hard work compromised.

Peace,

T'Zairis

Sphinx said...

My thoughts exactly T'Zairis

This guys on scientology are well prepared in the art of speech and deception. You can very easily be caught in their web of truth & lies.

I'm not saying that you, Mike are not aware of this things but is better to be always in red alert when you receive intels from that kind of guys.

For more info I recomend to you also a David Icke's book: The Biggest Secret: The Book That Will Change the World

....or just a short review about Hubbard on

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=383176&postcount=369

Mike Bara said...

Guys,

I will certainly dig into this, but I have no beef with the Church of Scientology, even if it is based on Crowleyism. My only interest is in being accurate about Parsons associations. People can make of his dailiance with Hubbard what they wish. I am however sympathetic to the Church's desire that their side of the story be given a fair hearing.

Sphinx said...

Whew!

That's a relief!

:)

Sphinx said...

Forget to tell you about this one

Another Extrasolar Planet Possibly Imaged

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/081125-st-beta-pictoris.html

marsandro said...

I'm clear!

Should I have said that?!?

:-)

Hathor -- Eyeing this bit of humor a little sideways...

;-)

david nineteenpointfive said...

Like any church they can employ the art of personalized schmoozing to spin their version. I can see you are taking it with a grain of salt in your pursuit of objectivity.

T'Zairis said...

CoS goes way beyond 'spin' and 'schmoozing'. If one does anything that the church does not like, the standard course of action is to declare one an SP (Suppressive Person), against which 'Operation Fair Game' may be waged. Not only has CoS tied up people with all sorts of spurious/punitive and hugely expensive legal actions (in efforts to keep others from publishing material that CoS deems adverse to it), they have also gone after people's reputations, bank accounts, etc., because SPs are to be shown no mercy and utterly ruined in every way they can be.

The case of author Paulette Cooper illustrates the lengths to which CoS will go, and her case is not the only one. Another book, 'A Piece of Blue Sky' by John Atack was removed from their catalog by Amazon due to CoS pressure. (It was eventually reinstated, but only after major and very expensive legal wrangling.) Fortunately, both Ms. Cooper and Mr. Atack have graciously posted pdf versions of their books online, so both works are readily available whether or not vendors like Amazon are cowed into dropping them.

Personally, I do not give a fig who Hubbard stole from (and he stole much from many different unacknowledged sources) when he cobbled together dianetics/scientology. Both he and Crowley had quite a bit of sympathy for Nazi/elitist BS-- both Crowley and Hubbard saw themselves as 'specially chosen/talented', and as above and superior to others around them. Hubbard's own term for a non-CoS person was a 'wog', and CoS still uses said word today, because der fuehrer Hubbard sanctified it for them with his own liberal use of the term and his elitist mindset.

My major concern for DM's of the future is that if something is published that CoS doesn't like, there could be all sorts of legal shenanigans that would be aimed at getting current vendors/publishers to drop the book(s). I would say that if DM has come to the attention of CoS, get a damn good lawyer on board, stat.

Also worth a visit-- for a comprehensive listing of the various federal (and international) fraud cases that CoS has been/is involved in-- is the website 'Operation Clambake'. Below are quotes from Judge Paul Breckenridge, Jr. (CA-- Los Angeles Superior Court), and Judge Brinkema (VA-- District Court) concerning CoS and Hubbard's 'fair game' m.o.--

"[The court record is] replete with evidence [that Scientology] is nothing in reality but a vast enterprise to extract the maximum amount of money from its adepts by pseudo scientific theories... and to exercise a kind of blackmail against persons who do not wish to continue with their sect. [...]In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil rights, the organization over the years with its 'Fair Game' doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in [Scientology] whom it perceives as enemies. The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder [L. Ron Hubbard]. The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background and achievements. The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egoism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile." (Judge Paul G. Breckenridge, Jr., 6/20/84; Scientology v. Armstrong, affirmed on appeal 232 Cal.App.3rd 1060, 283 Cal.Rptr. 917.)

"L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, has been quoted as looking upon law as a tool to [h]arass and discourage rather than to win: The law can be used very easily to harrass and enough harrassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." (Judge Brinkema, U.S. Eastern Virginia District Court, 11/28/95, No. 95-1107-A (RTC [Scientology shell corp.] v. Lerma, Digital..., Washington Post, et. al.)

The bottom line is, there is a HUGE amount of info out there linking CoS with attempts to (forcibly) prevent people from writing things that the CoS doesn't like. It's censorship, being practiced in the most blatant ways imaginable.

I will say it again: be very, very careful. CoS forges everything from spurious minutes of board meetings to fake fiscal records and supposed Hubbard 'documents'. These assertions are not my opinion, but a matter of trial records in several U.S. states.

Peace,

T'Zairis

david nineteenpointfive said...

Just don't drink their Kool-Aid.

robert said...

I would like to know folks' opinion that now that the MSL is delayed until 2011, AND with the "issues" around the 2012 ride through the Galatic plane...is there ANY hint within NASA itself that more of the TRUTH of Cydonia or even LIFE would be forthcoming BEFORE the MSL lands?

Because in my view...I just think it is another excuse for the OWLS to keep thier grip on power, knowledge and shut out the Brutal Truths we KNOW from Richard, Mike and other's works about the Ancient Ruins around our Solar System.

Is there ANY REAL chance things will come out BEFORE the MSL lands?

Bob...:D