A Forum Dedicated to Discussion of the New York Times Bestseller "Dark Mission - The Secret History of NASA" by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara
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In color. That is a great point. Why would you have the super-resolution, but then not in color? This technology has been around 60 + years. I does make a huge difference.
Hello.A few images of the "Face"....http://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.htmlView all images....Thanks.
That's very interesting KS15. Who did the processing on those images? It seems to show the "blockies" below the surface that Keith Laney found on the Mars Odyssey images.
Hello mike.....I did....Thats my website...Over 1GB of imageshttp://www.marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.htmlEverything from Mars,Apollo 17, Rosetta/Steins, to UFOs (Real ones.....Confirmed that it is)...Browse around!
Mike,KS15 is a.k.a. Ken S.He is a member at TEM's forum.Here is a link to his thread at TEM so you might get to know him better:http://www.gototalk.com/showthread.php?t=4741
Hey Mike, Great work as always! I wanted to point out that the vast majority of the ESA Mars Express images have the northern orientation facing the right side of the frame. I'm not sure why this is but it does not appear to be strictly related to images of the Cydonia region. I thought that there was a strong emphasis on this that others may seize onto to disregard (and ignore) the rest of your post.
Again, scientific convention is that north is up. I don't know why ESA can't do it that way.
Mike writes: Again, scientific convention is that north is up. I don't know why ESA can't do it that way.Lol... (if I didn't laugh, I'd cry my eyes out) Even when you rotate their image 90 degrees ccw, north still isn't up!!!Thank God for the Face and the Light lest we remain lost forever...
Don't look now, but our frenemy (friend of the concept of other life forms, apparent nonfriend to the work of Dark Mission) has offered his ideas for headlines again. Edgar Mitchell, that is.http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html
@d19.5 - at least it made the front page. I did e-mail one of the ESA contacts regarding the orientation of the images (north pointing to the right) and got back a quick reply. "Do you look at road maps with the East or South up ? Same thing here."Not quite the answer or explanation I was hoping for.
How does that make sense? They turned the images so north is to the right. North should always be "up."
Exactly. It makes no sense at all. If it wasn't so damn hot here I'd try to rationalize it. As it stands I'll leave it chalked up to shifty behavior.
This is why MOST of the time North is to the right……http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Hale_Crater/CraterHale110C2A.jpgThere are “artworks” scattered all over Mars….Faces looking East…..The ESA is providing images with North to the right to show these “artworks”…If one looks hard enough…Most of the time, You need software like Adobe PhotoShop CS3 to see these artworks.….However, North is not always to the right….Here is an image with North to the left!http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=crater%20hale&single=y&start=1&size=bRotated CW with North to the right…keeping with the ESA convention..LOLhttp://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Hale_Crater/thumbnails/th_CRHL21.jpgIt is possible that the ESA is providing multiple angle views…However, none of these images show North pointing up…..A normal map orientation….http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=crater%20hale&start=1I hope this will give insight in why North is to right.
All that debunking and the thing still looks pretty symmetrical to me. I find it hard to believe that wind and other erosion could shape its sides so perfectly.
The mathematical measurements (pointed out in Dark Mission) between the face and the nearby surrounding features are what have convinced me. I find any other dismissals due to weatherized patterns, without addressing that, to be without any credibility.
Did you guys see this????http://gizmodo.com/5239385/mcdonalds-menu-features-nasa-lunar-footage-chicken+scented-tape-player
Strange object on Mars: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/5255394/Alien-skull-spotted-on-Mars.html
Your Host - yeah I saw that one a long time ago I think, from Mr. Skipper's site. He appears to still have an intensive study of anomalous photos:http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/
Mike, you guys ought to have a lot of fun with this!!How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon RocksBy Carmel Hagen, 4:00 PM on Wed May 6 2009 http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks In 2002, rogue NASA interns stole millions of dollars in moon rocks. This is the untold story of how they did it. Building 31 North's white halls are empty, because it is the middle of the night. NASA interns Thad Roberts and Tiffany duck inside a bathroom, and tear off their clothing. Then they change into the contents of their duffel bags—2mm thick neoprene bodysuits. Like in a bad movie, the suits will help Thad and Tiffany avoid heat sensors armed to feel out threatening climate changes inside a vault. The adrenaline, their attraction, the smell of rubber suits and the fear of failure is almost overwhelming. After pulling on the thermally shielded gear, Tiffany and Thad step back into the corridor, moving toward the turnstile lock that guards their target: NASA's prized stash of moon rocks.[snip]There are rumors of unsolved mysteries. Supposedly, two significant pieces of NASA history went missing during the time of the crime, and have not been recovered: The original video tapes of the 1969 Lunar Landing, and six folders of more mysterious content that were supposedly stored in the safe. Thad claims to have never seen them.Carmel Hagen serves as editor at realtime search engine OneRiot, where she guzzles Bawls energy drink and chucks empty bottles at PCs. In her spare time she sleeps, explores San Francisco, and writes for a solid mix of urban culture, trendsetting and tech publications.
Wow Jimbo, that's a wild story!
Great post! I thought it may be of interest to you that in 1947 surreal artist Isamu Noguchi proposed a mile long and 1/2 mile wide earthen structure to be built in the desrt called 'The face to be Seen from Mars'! For more detail you can check out http://divineportal.blogspot.com/ . It looked almost identical to the face on Mars!
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